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Hi, I'd like run the interwiki Bot King Willan Bot here, and get a bot flag for it.

Thank you! --King Willan Bot (留言) 2008年2月2日 (六) 12:17 (UTC)[回覆]

Hello !
Some bot owners here might already know me, I am NicDumZ, an experienced French bot owner running DumZiBoT on fr: (see stats), on en:, and on de:.
After some hesitations on whether I should do this or not, I go on every wiki where this user has requested a flag to comment his request : One could not deny that King Willan is showing good willingness, seems very honest and motivated, and that he could be trusted; Still, on fr:, his home wiki, we have denied his bot flag request. Upon discussion, it turns out that King Willan is a bit young and that he is not experienced at all in interwikis and bot handling :
  • When asked about some dubious edits his bot made (e.g. [1] and [2]), he answered (rough translation) Well, the program asked me what to do; I checked the first foreign interwiki, then clicked on the fr: interwiki from the foreign page; Since it didn't bring me back to my originating page, I removed the interwikis. I think that this is showing some serious misunderstanding of the interwiki system, proving that this user is not qualified enough in interwiki handling.
  • We explained him that he was mistaken on these particular edits, and why : he answered back that his pywikipedia copy was out of date (he downloaded a 08/2007 snapshot from sourceforge), and that surely the framework had misleaded him and that it wasn't his fault. :s
  • He asked on several places technical questions on pywikipedia, proving that he does not know how this framework works, and probably that he does not understand python :
  • I strongly believe that he his not able to speak or understand English enough to communicate with other projects, to explain what he did, or simply to understand their policies:
    • The technical questions he asked have easy answers in English in the documentation of the framework.
    • When I went on his de: and en: requests to comment them, he asked me to translate in French what I wrote (diff: [3])
    • Moreover, this diff [4], where he states "The bad version no take this fonction. My version take now this fonction" is quite... significant. :(
We're trying to see what can be done, on fr:, to teach him to use his tools properly, but for all the reasons stated above, I consider that, as of now, letting him have a botflag on so many projects at once would be very, very treacherous.
I will not be monitoring this page; Please, let me now on my French talk page if you have any questions, remarks, or if any further discussion goes on here.
Thanks a lot.
NicDumZ ~ 2008年2月5日 (二) 14:33 (UTC)

Sorry for my poor translation and sorry for translating your sugestions without your agreements.Lichunhon (留言) 2008年6月18日 (三) 13:54 (UTC)[回覆]