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用戶:DrizzleD/不要僅以「無共識」為由

維基百科,自由的百科全書
這些裁判之間看上去沒有什麼共識...

Sometimes editors will undo a change, justifying their revert merely by saying that there is "no consensus" for the change. Ask yourself: will preserving "consensus" be best for the editors and the readers? If you believe so, slow down, reread talk, verify sources and pause before acting. Genuine consent is freely given, while no consensus can be a take. 有時候編輯者們會撤銷一項更改並僅僅用「無共識」來解釋這一撤銷。問問你自己:維持現狀對編者和讀者是最好的嗎?如果你相信如此,慢慢來,重讀一遍討論,查證來源,在着手行動之前先暫停一下。真正的共識是自由產生的,而無共識也是可以被接受的。

別做反對更新頁面的人

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撤銷更改的行為挫傷了人們大膽的貢獻熱情,這種熱情對建設維基百科是必須的。要意識到,修改、回退、討論循環有時什麼也帶不來。這是一種修改、回退、討論循環的濫用。有些人可能會用編輯摘要來讓那些大膽的編輯者「先討論」。可是討論需要至少兩派。想想一個人進行了一次編輯,他/她完全準備好進行必要的討論,有充分的來源和合理的理由,針對於文章的薄弱之處。這時,一個「先討論」卻沒有任何討論頁行動的回退既沒有幫助,也沒有建設性和信息量。避免這樣做。當然,應對故意破壞者和meta:troll除外。

真正開始並貢獻討論

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By intense stonewalling, Jackson helped the good guys win the war between the states, right?

Reverting on a "no consensus base" without any further info tries to avoid any discussion. It's one of the strategies of Wikipedia:Status quo stonewalling. After all, if one reverted the edit already shows that there is no consensus. But when authors neglect to explain why they personally disagree with the edit or where the consensus in question was concluded, they haven't given people a handle on how to build any new consensus that is desired to enhance WP's articles and their individual quality.

Reach out

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Make her happy and ring her bell, the Wikipedia generic Commons needs innovation, transhumance instead of standstill

Handles to build consensus are needed by both sides of the debate. If you can't point out an underlying problem with an edit, there is no reason to immediately revert it. Revert only when necessary. If you just have a bad gut feeling about the edit, try to put appropriate quality tags and put some questions at the talk page. Involve portals and experienced authors. Finally, there may in fact exist silent consensus to keep the change. Consensus is not unanimity, and is thus not canceled by one editor's objection. Furthermore, if an edit really breaks certain established consensus, you should be able to refer to the discussion section, FAQ set, portal policy where this consensus was established. Edits to long-standing Wikipedia policies and guidelines may be reverted without much such notions - as in those cases the establishment of consensus needs no further proof. But note that Wikipedia:CCC - consensus can change - applies there as well. That said, it's the responsibility of the reverter to show and prove the consensus in question. One might as well ask editors which had an intense discussion on a certain aspect to mark and summarize the reached consensus formally. Wikipedia lacks tools to identify milestones of an articles development and neither has sufficient templates nor pointers for talk pages.

請對新內容和新觀點友善

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Wikipedia should encourage contributors and atttract new contributors to be bold in editing articles. Experienced authors may however tend to defends articles as their personal turf and may be under a Semmelweis reflex against innovation and new perspectives. Don't protect Wikipedia against new content and don't be anxious if other authors seem to have found evidence you not had heard of before. That might happen. Scientific knowledge and knowledge in general is exploding. Wikipedia should follow and welcome it, not exclude it. Reverting a bold contribution solely on the basis of "no consensus" is a sign that the reverter simply did not like the edit. Moreover, if one editor favors a new addition (i.e. its contributor), and another opposes it (i.e. the potential reverter), consensus is no closer to being against it than for it until more editors comment or edit, or until the two editors in question can move toward a compromise, preferably through editing.

想想你想要怎麼辦,並陳述它

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It is best to first consider whether there is a substantive problem with the edit in question. Mention that. Tag it. If it added unsourced or poorly-sourced information, try to find said information yourself, or failing that, note that in the revert summary. If it made the presentation of material awkward, tag it. Edit to make the presentation less awkward. Question awkwardness on the talk page. If the bold edit added a biased statement among others less controversial, try to find a way to recast the bias into a neutral mode or just revert that aspect only. Avoid Overzealous deletions. If it added instructions on how to do something, explain that Wikipedia is not a manual. If it removed content with no explanation or an unconvincing one, note that you are restoring valid content, and why the explanation is unconvincing (if the edit summary box is too small for this, continue on the talk page).

一般地,對有爭議的或大的更改怎麼做

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If you feel that an edit should not stand, but you can't point to any specific reason, stop and think before you act. Just never make any edit without a reason.

  1. Stop. Think. Look at the talk page or the edit summary, check whether the edit has a reasonable rationale and quality sources.
  2. Note your concerns and think about which tags or questions describe them best.
  3. Edit the page to tag questionable edits or change them appropriately.
  4. Provide your rationale and your doubts and questions in edit summaries on the talk page.
  5. If you really cannot find a way to incorporate the edit, revert it. Boldly.
  6. Explain why. At least in the summary. Even if the reason seems obvious to you, it will not always be obvious to someone else.

Stay friendly. Wikipedia should stay a comedy of the commons. Life is hard enough.

特別地

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如果你覺得一項更改益處多於害處,永遠不要去撤銷它。即使你確信會有其他人反對,只要你覺得這項更改有益,你也不應該去撤銷。讓反對它的編者們自己去撤銷,這樣原貢獻者才能知道究竟是誰在反對,才能知道應該和誰進行討論。